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Fetal Nuchal Translucency, Down’s Syndrome, Chorionic Villus Sampling (CVS), Amniocentesis

Been going through a terrible time of late after we got a “upper end of normal” result at our 11w2d scan.  The result for both fetuses was 2.5 mm.  After discussing the risk factors and stats we decided we didn’t want to pursue further testing as we felt that there was no need to pursue invasive testing (CVS) if we didn’t intend to terminate under any circumstance.  I then went for another scan 12w5d at another gynie, the result of which is currently unclear (more on that later), but which seemed to my untrained eye to be 4.5. It also seemed as if the nucal was visible from the top view of the baby, which caused great alarm on my part.  He only mentioned that one seems to be normal and the other not. After scanning I asked the result from the Dr. who responded that he will forward a report via fax to the sonographer that will perform further testing (fetal assessment center), at which point I realised I will not get along with the Dr. I was emotionally drained and didn’t have the energy to have the “I am entitled to my results” talk, and very politely said my goodbeys and paid my bill.  Very few things in this world infuriates me more than a medical practitioner without emotional intelligence who believes that patients are incapable of mastering medical information.  Apparently you need a medical degree to understand a bell curve *shrug*.

Anyhow, I left his consulting rooms confused, rattled and anxious and immediately followed up by arranging a fetal assessment at Kingsbury Fetal Assessment Center in Cape Town – Tel: 021 683 4653 (which was going to happen just the NEXT day).  After much discussion and tears we decided we could not buy our own peace of mind at the risk of our babies (should a CVS be performed) and I proceeded to cancel the appointment that was so kindly arranged by Elizabeth at Kingsbury at such short notice.  They were extremely kind in their response and I was choking as I said goodbey on the phone, trying to gulp down my tears.  The pressure of HAVING to do the assessment (because the expert assessor Shannon Morris was going on leave) on such short notice just broke me and I had to go with my gut feel and cancel.  The screening would have involved last minute travel arrangements to Cape Town and a lot of stress after an already long day of emotional upset and just did not feel right.

In the fuss of arrangements (trying to get my blood group from Vitalab) for the Kingsbury scan I spoke to one of the nurses at VL and she asked if I was aware of Prof. Nicolaou Tel:011 883 3070 at Morningside Medi Clinic and that they performed a bunch of non-invasive tests, I wasn’t and decided to investigate.

The nurse (Sharon) at Prof. Nicolaou’s rooms was extremely helpful and talked me through all my options and was equally infuriated at the Dr. who refused me my results. I requested that his report be sent through to Prof. Nicolaou’s rooms.  Interestingly Sharon said that most of the time amnio is better with twins as the positioning can be problematic with CVS, she also mentioned that they now have software and updated stats that improves the efficacy of blood results on twin pregnancies. I sighed a sigh of relief to finally hear a person speaking a language I could understand.

I now have a 17w appointment where they will perform all the available tests and allow us to decide based on the results of those tests if we wish to proceed with an amnio.

So, we now wait for 17 Nov when we’ll know more about the status of the twins.

I think the message that needs to be put across very clearly is that Fetal Assessment does not necessarily HAVE to involve invasive testing and that Obgyns are responsible for communicating risks in a sensitive and clear manner.  No one should be manipulated emotionally into going for further testing by ANY means.  The work of a physician is to put the facts on the table and help patients to navigate their way around the implications of those facts.

Some useful info:

What is fetal nuchal translucency?

Abi Berger, Science editor

In the fetus fluid collects behind the neck, much like it does in dependent ankle oedema in later life. This occurs partly because of the fetus’s tendency to lie on its back and partly because of the laxity of the skin of the neck. As with ankle oedema this accumulation of fluid can represent the end point of several pathological processes, including heart failure. Fluid collecting behind the neck can be detected as nuchal translucency by ultrasound scanning, and it can be measured. The more fluid that has accumulated, the greater the risk of an abnormality being present.
Chromosomal abnormalities—for example, Down’s syndrome—can cause fluid accumulation. Chromosome 21 contains the gene that codes for type VI collagen. In trisomy 21 one subunit of this collagen can be overexpressed, resulting in connective tissue that has a more elastic composition.
Failure of fetal movements is also likely to cause nuchal thickening. Neuromuscular abnormalities can cause poor breathing and body movements, both of which may lead to fluid collecting as happens in peripheral oedema. One example is arthrogryposis, which causes contractures and flexion deformities and can be fatal. Other causes are intrathoracic and extrathoracic compressive syndromes. If the thoracic cage is abnormally narrow or an intrathoracic lesion is present (such as a diaphragmatic hernia) the vessels in the fetus’s head and neck become congested and oedema occurs. Likewise, if heart failure occurs (due to congenital cardiac abnormalities or cardiac dysfunction) more extravascular fluid will form.
There is a brief opportunity between 10 and 14 weeks’ gestation (when the fetal lymphatic system is developing and the peripheral resistance of the placenta is high) to detect abnormal fluid collections. After 14 weeks the lymphatic system is likely to have developed sufficiently to drain away any excess fluid, and changes to the placental circulation will result in a drop in peripheral resistance. So after this time any abnormalities causing fluid accumulation may seem to correct themselves and can thus go undetected by measuring nuchal translucency.
About 90% of fetuses with a nuchal translucency measurement of 3mm (“high”) at 12 weeks’ gestation are normal at birth, while 10% have major abnormalities. Only 10% of babies with a measurement of 6mm (“very high”) at this time will be found to be normal. In centres that perform nuchal translucency measurements, once a fetus has been identified as having a high nuchal translucency, mothers are usually offered chorionic villus sampling and a repeat scan about two weeks later to exclude chromosomal or major physical abnormalities.

Source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1114626/

Other Sources:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuchal_scan

Chorionic Villus Sampling (CVS)

Amniocentesis

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  1. Dude! I’ve been so preoccupied and self absorbed in my own crap that I had no idea you were going through any of this! I’m so so so sorry Super M. I cannot even begin to imagine how stressful this must be.
    I’m so sorry you have to go through this, if only it could just be simple, girl has GIFT/FET… girl gets pregnant… girl has baby/babies! I mean really is that asking too much????

    (((hugs)))

  2. It’s good to hear that you have said your goodbyes at your now previous Gynae. I think you made very wise choices in your decisions to leave and to wait for further testing.

    I do hope that after your 17wk appointment things will be a lot clearer and that you don’t have much to worry about! That your babies are and will continue to be healthy.

    I hope you don’t stress too much till the 17th of November.

    Take good care of yourself and your little miracles!

  3. I think you were on the phone to Kingsbury when I was there this morning… around 09:00? I’m thinking of you and your two precious lo’s. Take care.

  4. This must be so terrifying for you, I’m appalled by your doctor’s boorish behaviour. I’ve only ever heard good things about Prof. Nicolaou, so I think you’re in excellent hands now.

    I hope it turns out to be a false scare and your babies are both fine.

  5. Oh Maritza – how stressful – not what one needs when one is with child! (Or children, as in your case!)
    As a medical professional, I can tell you that we are taught at university that one should always give impartial, informative advice… and to force opinion or treatment on an uninformed patient is, in essence, malpractice. This dude either trained back in the day when doctors were in fact, thought to be God, or else he marches to his own agenda.
    Good luck with it all, will be thinking of you! Hey – I work at morningside, so come and say hi to me!
    PS: My sister had a high risk nuchal scan and blood test result with both her daughters. She had an amnio with one and decided not to with the other. Both daughters were born perfectly healthy… and are now thriving 7 and 5 yr olds.
    Good luck

  6. I’m sorry that you are going through this. I wish that it didn’t have to be complicated. Thinking of you.

  7. Oh my friend, I can’t believe this. I’m so sorry that this is so hard. I have only heard good things about Prof. Nicolaou, I have two friends have been to him and he’s excellent.

    I can understand you wanting to wait because it’s all very overwhelming. I will keep you and your babies in my prayers and thoughts.

    Please know that we are here for you anytime you want to chat/vent/cry.

    Sending big hugs and love xxx

  8. Ai tog Super M I can’t believe that asshat treated you guys like that. It makes one really dislike such so called professionals. I’ll be praying that all is well with the twins at the next scan and that soon this stressful time will be behind you.

    Here if you need to chat.

    Lots of love
    xxx

  9. Just wanted to say my thoughts are with you! Life sure does like to throw curveballs at us…

    I agree, find a gynae that you feel comfortable with. Afterall he is part of one of the most amazing yet terrifying chapters of your life!

    Best wishes

    D

  10. Hi there
    I surrogated twins last year and went to Prof Nicolaou who who was so professional, kind and very gentle
    xx

  11. Am thinking of you M…

  12. Keeping you and your babies in my prayers. Been thinking a lot about you. I cannot stand callous Doctors, they make me see red everytime I read about one. Sorry you had to go through that.

    Love and hugs
    Elize

  13. Catching Up on blog land after avoiding it for so long. Sorry it’s taken so long to comment…I was hoping you’d post an update saying it was a false alarm and to be honest I have no idea what the right thing to say is in a situation like this. I don’t know anything about this stuff. I’m jsut so sorry things are less than simple for you right now. I’ll keep you in my prayers that all turns out ok. xxx

  14. My daughter has just this morning had an amnio, recommended by her foetal assessment dr, due to fetal nuchal and high risk blood results.
    We have been on an emotional roller coast,since hearing this and waiting for today. Now the wait for the results in two days!
    So we know exactly what you are going through.

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